oh yeah i totally agree with that. but like if i’m commenting on it just on a wider scale that’s where i kinda like say pro life but kinda air quote it i guess? cause the title paints the view with a brush that doesn’t jive right with me
I guess in the end I see the difference between “Pro-Life” and “anti-choice”. The difference in the capitals. “Pro-Life” is a title that people on that side of the debate like to be called, and while “anti-choice” may be a more accurate description of the actual issue at hand, referring to “Anti-Choice people” is the part that’s disrespectful, I think. THAT’S where it feels like re-titling an entire side of a debate, and that’s always felt more like playground debate tactics to me. If that makes sense.
(Random aside, I’ve gone on for three posts now, so if you want to block all this out, the tag is “Paige debates stuff”. I’m going back to tag the other ones now.)
Public service announcement: If anyone’s read my last two posts in an angry voice, you’re reading it wrong. I’m not mad at anybody or even really frustrated with anyone in particular. The term has just always bothered me and I felt like blogging about it. So, please to be reading them in a nice calm rational debate tone of voice!
I’m soapboxing, not yelling.
but the title pro-life isn’t really accurate it kinda implies that they’re fighting people who are like anti-life or pro-death? and it just sets the view in a *positive light* (i feel weird saying anti-choice too so i’m kinda like ??)
It does, yes. But in their minds, they’re not arguing against choice, they’re arguing for the life of a baby. Regardless of which one is ACTUALLY more accurate to what they’re arguing, they refer to themselves as Pro-Choice, and that’s the title I think should be used.
If two people are having a debate on the subject, and one of them starts calling the other one “Anti-Choice” or “Anti-Life” (both of which I’ve heard), then the debate stops being about the actual issue at hand and turns into an insult war of arguing what they should be called, and that’s counter productive.
I’m just saying it’s about respecting another person, even if you don’t respect their views. If you’re debating with a person who says they’re Pro-Life and you start insisting that they’re actually Anti-Choice, then why should they listen to you? Now you’re basically telling them what they REALLY believe, and who the hell is going to bother talking to someone like that? How does anyone expect to change someone’s opinion on something if they can’t even be an adult about it?
Calling someone “Anti-Choice” makes me stop listening to you immediately, regardless of the point you’re trying to make. I know you’re trying to make a statement with that title, but it sounds like you’re just resorting to using insults instead of actually making an intelligent argument. Like, I could 100% agree with the point you’re making, but if you can’t be mature enough to respect what the other side of your debate titles themselves, then I just don’t care about anything you have to say.
Made Cerise a new dress! Also she got an iCoffin (she’s attending Monster High in the roleplay group I’m in). She’s wearing Clawdeen’s belt and necklace.
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